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  1975 and the burning question/s??

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
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  ok. so i'm sitting there at the convention.

  the video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the bible by adhering to the scripture that says:.

  'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'.

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  Bungi Bill

  I would put this recent talk on 1975 as half truth propaganda

  Finkelstein, I believe you have nailed it with that statement!

  
  
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  The Witneses reckon that they are the only ones going door-to-door!

  by Bungi Bill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just had a visit from two guys who are engaged in a door-to-door campaign in the area, preaching "the gospel", and offering, to quote "the best news you are ever going to hear".

  this was at 3:30 pm local time, an hour at by which all jws would have long called it a day.

  while these two didn't identify themselves with any particular church group, it was quite obvious that they were neither jws or lds.

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  Bungi Bill

  It is noteworthy that both these characters were dressed casually. Also, neither resembled the one and only visitation I have ever received from Seventh Day Adventists (back in 1981).
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  Do You Ever Think Of ALL The Wasted Time Because You Were a JW?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the longer you are out the more you see how a cult steals all your time, resources and energy.

  we wasted so much because we were witnesses!

  👎.

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  Bungi Bill

  So bad that it doesn't even bear thinking about!
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  The Witneses reckon that they are the only ones going door-to-door!

  by Bungi Bill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just had a visit from two guys who are engaged in a door-to-door campaign in the area, preaching "the gospel", and offering, to quote "the best news you are ever going to hear".

  this was at 3:30 pm local time, an hour at by which all jws would have long called it a day.

  while these two didn't identify themselves with any particular church group, it was quite obvious that they were neither jws or lds.

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  Bungi Bill

  I just had a visit from two guys who are engaged in a door-to-door campaign in the area, preaching "The Gospel", and offering, to quote "The best news you are ever going to hear". This was at 3:30 pm local time, an hour at by which all JWs would have long called it a day.

  While these two didn't identify themselves with any particular church group, it was quite obvious that they were neither JWs or LDS.

  By contrast, since moving into my current address eight months ago, we have had one only visit from the JWs - this in a district of just 20,000 people, but which has no less then three congregations of Jehovahs Witnesses!

  When everything else fails, the JWs like to point to the door-to-door "Preaching Work" as evidence that they - and only they - have "The Truth". Well look out fellas. Around here at least, somebody might be stealing your thunder!
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  What masters degree would a Jw university offer?

  by Chook in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  masters degree in panda marketing..

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  Bungi Bill

  MA (Hons) in Stupidity
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  Languages, Dialects, Accents

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just though i'd start a thread devoted to languages, dialects/sociolects and accents, with the idea being that posters can comment on any language, or dialect or accent of any language, on this thread.. any phrases, expressions or idioms that you find interesting are also welcome.

  first, the subject of english accents came up on another thread.. the british isles have many different types of accent (although many of the dialects may be dying out), and if i start to take a closer look, i can't help but see 'patterns' .... in received pronunciation of standard english, the letter r is pronounced initially, between vowels, and after consonants, e.g.

  red, arrow, break.

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  Bungi Bill

  I spent quite a length of time in Papua New Guinea, a country in which over 800 different languages are spoken (As of January 2006, a total of 806 languages had been identified. Since then, it is possible that even more have been discovered). This goes away beyond mere variations in dialects; many of the languages are not even in the same "language group" as others.

  Often in that country, you can have the situation in which the people in one village speak an entirely different language to those in the next one - and that next village could literally be just on the opposite bank of the river! Furthermore, that "difference" could be as great as not even being in the same language group!

  In order to communicate and trade with one another, the people developed a lingua-franca known variously as "Neo Melanesian", "Tok Pisin" or "Pidgin English".

  80% of the words in Pidgin English are from the English language, but adapted to the Melanesian style of grammar. The remaining 20% of the Pidgin vocabularly is drawn from Malay, Portuguese, German, Fijian, and local languages (principally that of theTolai people of East New Britain).

  However, the meaning of English words has often been altered, For example to "die" in Pidgin means to be unconscious; to "die" as it is understood in English is to be "die finish". Also, various terms that in English are either swear words or else outright obscene are just how you say it in Pidgin. The most common such word you encounter is "bagarap" - i.e. bugger-up. If anythingthing is damaged/defective, it is "bagarap":

  - If it is badly damaged, it is "bagarap tru"; if irrepairably damaged, it is "bagarap finish". Should everything be going wrong, then "Ol samting bagarap".

  Always a trap when coming back to an English speaking country!

  For an English speaking person, Tok Pisin is not generally too difficult to pick up. There are, though, a few pitfalls.

  One that caught us out for a while as the expression "Yu kisim we?" This turned out to mean "Where did you get it from?"

  As an example of how English words have been integrated into the Melanesian style of grammar , this was as statement I had directed at me one night, after our vehicle broke down in a remote part of East New Britain:

  "Masta, ka bilong yu i bagarap."

  What this person was telling us was "White man, your car has broken down" (which I already knew!)

  Yes, I could go on all day about the Papua New Guinea Tok Pisin language!
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  Watchtower article about shooting at hall?

  by dkztcequ in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anyone know if it is mentioned in one of the old watchtowers about someone who made off with someones wife, both of whom were shot at the hall by the woman's husband?

  someone told me this was in a watchtower, but i cannot find it..

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  Bungi Bill

  Hecce,

  Thanks for that. It was the 1988 Watchtower "Shootout in a Church" story that I remembered.
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  2 witnesses told me the literature they were handing out were not religious

  by charity7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  two witnesses came to my door the other day and i politely told them that i was not interested.

  they told me that it was ok and that what they were handing out was not anything religious.

  i told them sorry and that i was still not interested.

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  Bungi Bill

  What was that about often-repeated scripture, "Jehovah hates a lie" ?

  But of course, it is only the hypocritical "Clergy Of Christendom" who engage is such capers as telling a few porkies whenever it suits them to do so! Otherwise, like Winston Churchill, it is not a lie, merely a "Terminological In-exactitude".
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  Watchtower article about shooting at hall?

  by dkztcequ in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anyone know if it is mentioned in one of the old watchtowers about someone who made off with someones wife, both of whom were shot at the hall by the woman's husband?

  someone told me this was in a watchtower, but i cannot find it..

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  Bungi Bill

  I do recall a story like this once being printed in either an Awake or Watchtower.

  However, that would have been back in either the late 1980s or very early 1990s (the incident that I remember, anyway). Certainly cannot now recollect which issue of Watchtower or Awake it was in!
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  Jehovah's people are not happy people

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i finally stopped attending the meetings about 4 months go.

  i won't be going back - ever.. but i've decided the best reply to the watchtower is to be happy and i do try to be happy every day even thought i wasted my entire life on this religion.

  i cherish every day, practice mindfulness and do my best to be content with the life i have.. it is only now that i see that most jws i know are deeply unhappy people.

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  Bungi Bill

  During the 23 years since I broke from the JWs, I have only known one person who was diagnosed as suffering from "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" (CFS).

  This contrasts starkly with my final few years as a JW, where it was calculated that five percent of the publishers in our circuit were afflicted with CFS. Conspicuous amongst these were pioneers, elders (particularly those who were both elders and pioneers), and many others who were looked up to as outstanding in "their service to Jehovah". In other words, CFS tended to be a disease that particularly punished the more conscientious JWs.

  For those less familiar with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, one of its symptoms is a fearful, soul-destroying feeling of extreme depression. If you are unfortunate enough to succumb to this illness, one thing you aren't is happy! Furthermore, the standard JW cure-all for everything; i.e. more Field Service, more study of their propaganda, more meeting attendance etc. etc. etc. only further exacerbates the problem.